When I finally quit drinking for the last time, the withdrawal symptoms were so bad that kratom, which I usually loved, made no difference. Both DXM and opiates can depress respiration and high enough doses, and there might be a synergistic effect. It was just incredible Some people have reported that combining DXM with a low dose of a benzodiazepine can prevent some of the more annoying side effects mostly related to overstimulation, high blood pressure, and tachycardia. My head felt like it was pulsating, as did my whole body.
I should also clarify that I have been taking Klonopin for 6 weeks, and I don't feel the initial effects of the onset of Klonopin really, since it's so built up in my system. I felt relaxed, and euphoria gradually bulit up. Not an intense, all-of-a-sudden euphoria like cocaine, but like the gently creeping euphoria of opiates. My mind felt very active and stimulated, but my heart rate didn't increase, and I didn't feel jittery, nervous, paranoid or any of the other bad side effects that speed has.
It reminded me of a medium dose of amphetamines, again without the bad parts associated with. I felt very happy and open; empathetic and understanding would be a good description. I also talked a lot more as well. My mother and I don't have a very open relationship with each other, but I was able to talk to her about private issues of mine that I could never have told her without the help of Kratom. Looking back, I'm glad I was able to talk to her in that way.
Kratom gave me the ease of mind, relaxation, energy and motivation to share my feelings with her. Soon after this, about an hour into the experience, I went to my girlfriends house. We layed in her bed and my mind was still very active yet paradoxically calm. We talked for at least an hour about our hopes, dreams, and what we think of other people. Thoughts flowed from my mind, all leaving positive imprints.
During the movie I slipped into a waking dream, the 'nod' that is so pleasant on opiates. Here, I experienced dreams as if they were reality, even though I would wake up periodically and realize they were just a dream, to my amazement. It was very pleasant, and this went on for a hour or so more. Then I went home and to bed, and the dreamy presence of Kratom put me to sleep fast.
After taking high doses of Kratom, and not falling asleep right afterwards, I feel a 'hangover' that can be characterized as being irratable, and in just a bad mood. I did not experience this the first few times I drank Kratom, however the more I drink it on a regular basis, the more I notice these ill-effects. Kratom let me open up to those closest to me in a way I cannot do sober. This means strong addiction potential, so as always, moderation is key.
Some people have reported that combining DXM with a low dose of a benzodiazepine can prevent some of the more annoying side effects mostly related to overstimulation, high blood pressure, and tachycardia. Clonazepam Clonopin[tm] in particular has been reported to have specific effects in combination with DXM, different from other benzodiazepines.
These effects include enhanced CEV's closed-eye visuals and, of course, limiting or preventing sympathomimetic effects high blood pressure and heart rate, sweating, etc. I can't recommend this, and these drugs are of course prescription-only, but it doesn't seem to me that a low dose would be harmful. Just don't do it regularly. I strongly suggest you avoid barbiturates, and be careful with benzodiazpeines; both barbiturates and benzodiazepines tend to be dangerous enough by themselves and are frequently fatal when combined with other depressants such as alcohol.
While a few people enjoy this combination, most find it unpleasantly speedy anyway. Most who've tried it reported that DXM will potentiate other stimulants. Since DXM inhibits dopamine reuptake, combining it with a dopamine releasing agent amphetamine or methamphetamine will naturally produce a combined, synergistic effect. I'd suggesting avoiding this at all costs. Combining DXM, a psychostimulant, and a monoamine oxidase inhibitor is a sure way to make your blood pressure skyrocket and will probably kill you if you're lucky or leave you with severe brain damage if you aren't lucky.
High doses of DXM third plateau and up mixed with cannabis can be very, very dissociative and sometimes unpleasant. A few people have reported that cannabis with DXM makes them feel very stupid. One user reported that mg DXM followed 3. Severe flanging of all sensory input was present, and there was an overall "vibration" feeling present in the muscles.
With eyes closed, he could think fairly clearly, and solve simple and complex tasks much easier than on DXM or cannabis alone; however, with eyes open or other sensory distraction cognitive abilities deteriorated rapidly. Motor skills were possible only when performed automatically; any attempt to focus on them led to difficulties. Several users have reported that cannabis and DXM generally "go well" together.
Note that cannabis after the DXM trip is over seems to bring back some of the dissociative effects, much like alcohol and nitrous oxide. DXM probably interacts with marijuana at a pharmacological level. While one person said this combination was "not recommended", most have had incredibly profound experiences. On the other hand, very few of these have said they would ever repeat the combination, as it was simply far too powerful and terrifying.
One person told me that DXM helped him avoid unpleasant cognitive effects and "bad trips" he might otherwise get from LSD alone. Anyways that day I had been up about 18 hours when I took the lsd. After doing some fingerpainting and noticing how the visuals were pretty good for only 1 hit and just having recently tripped I decided to give the dxm another whirl. So I took mg. At first I felt slightly out of it a bit drunk. As I sat in the chair however I began to feel like I was sinking deep within myself.
It became very hard to focus on anything so I closed my eyes. Whew-wee what a mistake. I opened my eyes and when they couldnt focus I began to feel horribly sick. So I went and threw up it lasted about 30 seconds and after I threw up instantly I began to feel incredibly fucked up. I was very depersonalized. I felt like I was nothing more than a dot inside my head. Focus on anything was next to impossible and my eyes began to shift a lot.
The vertigo was immense if I looked at any repeating pattern. Enigma was playing on the stereo and it sounded so full and deep it was hard to listen to. I layed down and closed my eyes and began another rushing trip. This one was much more intenst than the first so intense that my brain began to feel very overloaded. At this point I felt incredibly horrible. My head felt like it was pulsating, as did my whole body. It was as though I was showering the room with excess energy. The music was turned off and I gained some composure.
This time after thorwing up just water I felt wonderful. I relaxed and layed down again and then it began. The most wonderous experience of my life. There just are no words to describe the nenxt 4 or 5 hours. I would close my eyes and the visuals were so lifelike. It was like a waking dream where I had full control.
Soemtimes it was hard to tell if my eyes were close or open. When they were open I was having mass hallucinations. Walls with paintings that werent there etc It was just incredible The possibility of a bad trip is easily much higher than the possibilty of a good one. Quite simply I have never seen anything else that even came close to comparing. Will I do it again? I achieved what I was looking for in the whole trip thing; complete and total fooling of my mind.